skate01
Oct 7 2005, 09:03 PM
plz help me get sponsord i was dreming of geting sposord so plz hellp meeeee i go crazo on my bord trying
Fozzz
Oct 7 2005, 09:05 PM
Make a sponsor me video, win competitions, etc, etc
Twiglet
Oct 7 2005, 09:10 PM
go to america and give hand jobs to anyone in the skate industry.
You can't, sponsorship is merely a myth
New Gnu
Oct 7 2005, 09:20 PM
QUOTE(skate01 @ Oct 7 2005, 10:03 PM)

plz help me get sponsord i was dreming of geting sposord so plz hellp meeeee i go crazo on my bord trying
MytholoJy
Oct 7 2005, 09:44 PM
get bent, its people like you that ruin skating, skate because you want to, then when you think hey im pretty damn good at this i could make something from it, then do something about it, but dont skate just to get sponsored ffs
Twiglet
Oct 7 2005, 09:49 PM
QUOTE(MytholoJy @ Oct 7 2005, 10:44 PM)

get bent, its people like you that ruin skating, skate because you want to, then when you think hey im pretty damn good at this i could make something from it, then do something about it, but dont skate just to get sponsored ffs
i didnt want to be so rude but i agree, i just sugested the loss of all dignaty.
Darris
Oct 7 2005, 11:39 PM
QUOTE(skate01 @ Oct 7 2005, 10:03 PM)

plz help me get sponsord i was dreming of geting sposord so plz hellp meeeee i go crazo on my bord trying
Please type in English.
And forget about sponsorship, skate for the fun of it, and should you get that good you become worthy of sponsorship then make yourself a video promoting your talents. Do you realise how many kids out there all have the same goal? Now compare that against the number that actually achieve their ambition.
Aeris
Oct 8 2005, 09:32 AM
and being sponsored is hard work too!
DarkFS
Oct 8 2005, 10:29 AM
QUOTE(Genetick @ Oct 7 2005, 10:11 PM)

You can't, sponsorship is merely a myth

I wouldn't call it a myth, a 13 year old girl I know is sponsered by Vans and she can barley even ollie. She is a lot better at Vert skating however.
Aeris
Oct 8 2005, 10:36 AM
girls get sponsored more easily than guys...
Candie
Oct 8 2005, 11:21 AM
what are you under the impression it will give you that you dont have already?
dont you just love the feeling of skaing down the street? floating an ollie over an obstical? cruzing a park?
sponsorship comes to you... not the other way round.
now go buy a skateboard and learn to use it you batty boy
QUOTE(Aeris @ Oct 8 2005, 11:36 AM)

girls get sponsored more easily than guys...
thats pretty gay, cos it leaves the standard of girl skaters pretty poor, although (ill quickly add) the standard is rapidly getting higher and the girls are catching up with the boys in recent years.
dont get me wrong, nuff respect to girls who ride but we're not a scratch on the guys.
YET
wahhahahah
watchout boys, make way cos here we come!
New Gnu
Oct 8 2005, 12:25 PM
Oh come on guys this whole post is blatently a piss take??
QUOTE
i bably want to get sponsord
Bably?
QUOTE
i was dreming of geting sposord
~~sings~~ Golden slumbers kiss your eyes...
QUOTE
i go crazo on my bord trying
Yeah man go crazo duude.
stu...
Oct 8 2005, 12:33 PM
yeah make a sponser me video and post it on the forum. Don't worry about being sponsered because it's realy realy hard work with demos and tours. You have to skate when you don't want to which is realy hard work. Basically being sponsered is a job, one of the better jobs out their but a job none the less
Aeris
Oct 8 2005, 12:53 PM
And sometimes it doesnt even leave time for having a proper job and you dont always get paid MONEY - mostly just with decks and stuff...
Candie: yeah, my words

i think girls should also mix up in "male" competitions to raise the standard... but for example, we do have a girl (insa ginsberg) who is skating like a guy, really good and stuff, but i am not sure if she has a single sponsor. on the other hand i know girls who cant do more than maybe kickturns, boardslides and maybe even a kickflip (a bad one

) and are sponsored by various companies. so... mweh.
in the end it is all a matter of connections. :/
stu...
Oct 8 2005, 01:58 PM
you could always suck neil smith off and you'd get a blueprint sponser. I'd love a sponser just so i could travel and not have to piss about with route-one mail order.

it's a beut and mine on monday!
MytholoJy
Oct 8 2005, 02:02 PM
of the subject..but i love that blueprint deck, i might get that next week, blueprint any good for skating?
New Gnu
Oct 8 2005, 02:04 PM
QUOTE(stu... @ Oct 8 2005, 02:58 PM)

you could always suck neil smith off and you'd get a blueprint sponser.
And you know this because?
Aeris
Oct 8 2005, 02:11 PM
QUOTE(Powell @ Oct 8 2005, 04:04 PM)

QUOTE(stu... @ Oct 8 2005, 02:58 PM)

you could always suck neil smith off and you'd get a blueprint sponser.
And you know this because?
which is what i actually DONT want to know
Rodney
Oct 8 2005, 02:33 PM
Even though i think this is a pisstake...
Skate for yourself, the sponsors come to you if youre good enough, not the other way round. From what i've heard sponsorship ain't all its cracked up to be...
Aeris
Oct 8 2005, 03:40 PM
Rodney: nope - if you seriously wanna get sponsored you actually have to approach them. first of all otherwise you get more and more depressed each day hoping a sponsor might come down to your local spot and watch you. And secondly, i was talking to a guy from a company who is able to help with sponsorships recently, and what he said was "if you wanna get sponsored then either taking part in contests or sending in sponsor-me-tapes/cds is necessary". At least over here, as at the moment there are loads of ppl coming to berlin.
And the sponsoring side sticks to the people they actually already know, so... :/
BUT: you shouldnt only skate for a sponsor but for yourself, i agree in that point.
stu...
Oct 8 2005, 05:34 PM
QUOTE(MytholoJy @ Oct 8 2005, 03:02 PM)

of the subject..but i love that blueprint deck, i might get that next week, blueprint any good for skating?
Well i'm getting it on monday so i'll tell you then.
QUOTE(Powell @ Oct 8 2005, 03:04 PM)

QUOTE(stu... @ Oct 8 2005, 02:58 PM)

you could always suck neil smith off and you'd get a blueprint sponser.
And you know this because?
i don't but........hey you shut up!
davewoolwich
Oct 8 2005, 06:23 PM
i had a blueprint deck, i was well disappointed with it, complete shite. i skate heroin now, cheap and brilliant
stu...
Oct 8 2005, 06:31 PM
hate to break it to you but all decks are the same. You can blab on about how this does that and something else dosen't but there all the same. i picked it because it was the right size and had a nice graphic and more importantly it was £40
Fozzz
Oct 8 2005, 06:35 PM
QUOTE(stu... @ Oct 8 2005, 07:31 PM)

hate to break it to you but all decks are the same. You can blab on about how this does that and something else dosen't but there all the same. i picked it because it was the right size and had a nice graphic and more importantly it was £40
hahaha
haha... oh my. Decks are different sizes, shapes, they have different concaves, and more importantly they come in many prices
stu...
Oct 8 2005, 06:44 PM
the point i'm trying to make is that they're all made in the same presses in the same way. It's marketing that's fucking with peoples brains and everyone's suckered in to it. How many compaines openly say where they get there decks pressed and where the wood comes from......not many
Aeris
Oct 8 2005, 07:27 PM
stu: yes and no - still they use different kinds of glue, different pressures, sometimes different wood (though most of them stick to maple - though what about the alu, fibre and carbon decks?

) so there are differences. but they dont depend on the brands but on the deck press companies.
Serapth
Oct 8 2005, 08:11 PM
Most people want to get sponsored for the acclaim and check me out factor.
However...
Realise your not that good.Being better than everybody else in your town is meaningless outside of your town, and pretty unimportant within it. I can think of loads of skaters who could be pro on any team in the world and dont have sponsors, so even if you are that mate who 'is better than all of you', it is still irrelevent in the wider skating world. You really have to grasp how good some of the top pros really are, so its a good time to learn some humility.
Put yourself about a bit. Skating the war memorial every schoolnight isnt going to get you noticed by anyone other than the police.Get out there into the surrounding scenes and ride with the best skaters you can find.
Dont grandstand. Being a showboat will make people less inclined to support you.There is nothing worse than someone clambering for attention. If your good enough (and not just second best on your local tesco carpark)it will come.Dont try to force it.
Enter contests.Weather you feel they suck or not,most of the decision makers in skating are fat balding old men with no contact to the streets, so comps are where they can watch skaters and get pissed at the same time.Shouldnt be that way, but it is.
Be realistic.There is no point trying to get sponsored by your local highstreet chainstore skate shop because they are run by suits with profit and loss graphs and havent a fucking clue basically.Just rob them blind instead. Equally, you cant expect a struggling independant to give you a board everytime you try to ollie of the roof of the old peoples home.Getting boards at cost is a fair comprimise in that situation.
Represent.Being a local park hero is only of interest of people who frequent the park; for you to be of any benifit to the profile of the potential sponser,you need to be an ambassador for skating. What can you actually do for them which will encourage other skaters to spend money with them rather than elsewhere?
Befreind a good photographer. Only Guy Mariano can be respected while invisible,and photographers hold the keys to the kingdom. Unfortunately, they are usually self important wankers, so just bite your tounge and pretend that you believe they actually do know what theyre talking about.Photographers can make adverts and coverage easier, and a good one can make almost anyone look good.Its all part of the process.
Dont believe the sponsor me tape myth.Just because you read in transworld or thrasher that jamie put someone on zero because of one doesnt mean it applies to real life. The flip down a stair set you filmed on a cheap shaky camera is of no interest if you dont have visabilty within the scene. A sponsor me tape is a useful follow up to have, but very few first sponsors rise or fall on the basis of a few minutes footage. Better to be out and about, rain or shine.
The bottom line is for sponsorship to work you need to be bringing more to the sponsor than you are costing them. If you are not prepared to be the tangible face of their business then its going to be a long and lonely road.
stu...
Oct 8 2005, 08:13 PM
QUOTE(Aeris @ Oct 8 2005, 08:27 PM)

stu: yes and no - still they use different kinds of glue, different pressures, sometimes different wood (though most of them stick to maple - though what about the alu, fibre and carbon decks?

) so there are differences. but they dont depend on the brands but on the deck press companies.
i'm talking about the major brands like blueprint and zero,ect,ect the shape and materials used don't differ much. the alu decks and that are made by old men that want to be five again. Glue!!! well companies are always going to use the most cost effective materials so they wont differ much either.
enjoi_this_ad
Oct 8 2005, 08:30 PM
Being sponsered isn't just all free decks and clothes you have to do demos and enter competions so you can market the company your skating for this means alot of the time you can't skate with your friends or go out any were andcan be very very annoying
Matt2k
Oct 8 2005, 08:33 PM
Also be prepared to throw yourself down stupidly large sets just for a photoshoot
QUOTE(stu... @ Oct 8 2005, 02:58 PM)

you could always suck neil smith off and you'd get a blueprint sponser. I'd love a sponser just so i could travel and not have to piss about with route-one mail order.

it's a beut and mine on monday!
I had that deck
QUOTE(MytholoJy @ Oct 8 2005, 03:02 PM)

of the subject..but i love that blueprint deck, i might get that next week, blueprint any good for skating?
THERE ABSOLOUTLY FUCKING AMAZING..... for 3 days and then there a pile of shit , Your tail goes square , you lose all pop and your nose goes pointy. Stay away from blueprint even if they are £40. Buy a zero for £60 last twice as long work it out ;
Blueprint£40+£40=£80
Zero = £60
grannyslam
Oct 9 2005, 12:51 AM
Bling skateboards are awesome..... (Australian brand)
stu...
Oct 9 2005, 12:05 PM
QUOTE(Mr Mike @ Oct 8 2005, 11:35 PM)

QUOTE(stu... @ Oct 8 2005, 02:58 PM)

you could always suck neil smith off and you'd get a blueprint sponser. I'd love a sponser just so i could travel and not have to piss about with route-one mail order.

it's a beut and mine on monday!
I had that deck
QUOTE(MytholoJy @ Oct 8 2005, 03:02 PM)

of the subject..but i love that blueprint deck, i might get that next week, blueprint any good for skating?
THERE ABSOLOUTLY FUCKING AMAZING..... for 3 days and then there a pile of shit , Your tail goes square , you lose all pop and your nose goes pointy. Stay away from blueprint even if they are £40. Buy a zero for £60 last twice as long work it out ;
Blueprint£40+£40=£80
Zero = £60
you only said that because you like in flames. now i'm skating a union so i'm not fussy but i don't want to buy crap from america. So you had a bad experience with a blueprint deck SOMEBODIES BUYING THEM look at the team and what they do you carn't do that stuff on square decks with no pop.
people get sponsers so they can put all there effort into skating. Do you thing any pro could do the things they're doing now while holding down a full time job. I respect skaters that have style and are consistant. I'd rather watch a super stylish nosegrind on a little ledge than someone flipping a massive stair set with no style at all. That's why my sig is olly todd, He's my favourate skater and he carn't do the lastest american pro tricks but he can do whatever he does with style, end of
enjoi_this_ad
Oct 9 2005, 12:45 PM
Sorry to break it to you stu but blueprint decks are shit, end of
_thom_
Oct 9 2005, 01:30 PM
QUOTE(enjoi_this_ad @ Oct 8 2005, 09:30 PM)

Being sponsered isn't just all free decks and clothes you have to do demos and enter competions so you can market the company your skating for this means alot of the time you can't skate with your friends or go out any were andcan be very very annoying
one of my mates have recently been sponsered and to be honest i can tell hes feeling the pressure.. everytime we go out and skate hes really worried about his tricks `looking good` and whether he should be throwing himselfs of the biggest sets he can find just because people are expecting him too, thing is its not all about that..
its about marketing and the company using you to spread there name about their company.. it takes up alot!! and i mean alot of time, demo and comps are just to start of it, but theres the pressure of being able to keep your tricks going, and most of all progress, espically if you get sponsered young, theyve only invested in you because they think 2 years down the line your gunnu be picking up deck/clothes sponsors, not just because you managed to flip that 10set..
i think magazines are to blame for the way people precieve sponsors today.. people just think its a list of tricks, a good sponsor me tape, and to be known at your local skate park.. but its not, its comitment and willing to go out and skate everyday and put something back into it. at the moment all my mates are telling me that its about time i got sponsered, but to be honest, it scares the shit out of me thinking about it.. its not the worry that im not good enough or anything, because that can change, all it takes is a few more nights a week out skating, its just the commitment and time it takes to actaully hold a sponsor.. if you just fuck around with it, before to long you will get dropped, and if you let it take over it can just make matters worse, espically with other stuff going on..
by all means get sponsered if you want, but its not as glamours as advertisers and marketers make it...
QUOTE(enjoi_this_ad @ Oct 9 2005, 01:45 PM)

Sorry to break it to you stu but blueprint decks are shit, end of
you can say that again..
keep to the topic guys, this kid wants to know how to get sponsered, not about shitty bluebrint boards..
*Josh
Oct 9 2005, 02:00 PM
QUOTE(stu... @ Oct 8 2005, 09:13 PM)

QUOTE(Aeris @ Oct 8 2005, 08:27 PM)

stu: yes and no - still they use different kinds of glue, different pressures, sometimes different wood (though most of them stick to maple - though what about the alu, fibre and carbon decks?

) so there are differences. but they dont depend on the brands but on the deck press companies.
i'm talking about the major brands like blueprint and zero,ect,ect the shape and materials used don't differ much. the alu decks and that are made by old men that want to be five again. Glue!!! well companies are always going to use the most cost effective materials so they wont differ much either.
Yes every deck is
very differenet. They are all made by different pressing companies, in differnet places, for different reasons. They all have different lengths, widths, thickness, concave, weight, material, shape of nose and tail, etc.
So no, every deck is not the same. And yes blueprint make horrible decks.
_thom_
Oct 9 2005, 03:21 PM
QUOTE(*Josh @ Oct 9 2005, 03:00 PM)

QUOTE(stu... @ Oct 8 2005, 09:13 PM)

QUOTE(Aeris @ Oct 8 2005, 08:27 PM)

stu: yes and no - still they use different kinds of glue, different pressures, sometimes different wood (though most of them stick to maple - though what about the alu, fibre and carbon decks?

) so there are differences. but they dont depend on the brands but on the deck press companies.
i'm talking about the major brands like blueprint and zero,ect,ect the shape and materials used don't differ much. the alu decks and that are made by old men that want to be five again. Glue!!! well companies are always going to use the most cost effective materials so they wont differ much either.
Yes every deck is
very differenet. They are all made by different pressing companies, in differnet places, for different reasons. They all have different lengths, widths, thickness, concave, weight, material, shape of nose and tail, etc.
So no, every deck is not the same. And yes blueprint make horrible decks.
you would be surprised actually Josh.. many decks today do and all come from practically the same distrubtor and makers.. i know for a fact, enjoi, blind and flip are all practially the same, the only difference is there graphics, dont let advertiser fool you, many decks are and always will be the same..
stu...
Oct 9 2005, 03:24 PM
maybe some are different but if you land on a deck funny then it's going to snap whatever it is so i go on price and size. Anyway i skated a girl deck a while ago and it was realy shit and ive been skating blanks since so a blueprint deck should be a pleasent surprise for me.
to get sponsered you have to have something that the person down the street dosen't have. This can be something as simple as having a huge bag of tricks or being super stylish or consistant. For example danny brady is doing things that nobody else is doing like the stalls on things and mannying out of them,ect,ect and it got him noticed and oh look he's turned pro! Britain is a good thing for this sort of stuff because we have so many harsh or silly looking things to skate and although their's no super-duper marble stair sets you can show people how well you can skate shit things THAT WILL GET YOU NOTICED and everyone will be like "oh cool he did and switch 180 on that bank to rail, that things so hard to skate, i carn't even ride up and down on it"
THOM SAID: you would be surprised actually Josh.. many decks today do and all come from practically the same distrubtor and makers.. i know for a fact, enjoi, blind and flip are all practially the same, the only difference is there graphics, dont let advertiser fool you, many decks are and always will be the same..
that's what i'm getting at!
Aeris
Oct 9 2005, 06:46 PM
QUOTE(_thom_ @ Oct 9 2005, 05:21 PM)

QUOTE(*Josh @ Oct 9 2005, 03:00 PM)

QUOTE(stu... @ Oct 8 2005, 09:13 PM)

QUOTE(Aeris @ Oct 8 2005, 08:27 PM)

stu: yes and no - still they use different kinds of glue, different pressures, sometimes different wood (though most of them stick to maple - though what about the alu, fibre and carbon decks?

) so there are differences. but they dont depend on the brands but on the deck press companies.
i'm talking about the major brands like blueprint and zero,ect,ect the shape and materials used don't differ much. the alu decks and that are made by old men that want to be five again. Glue!!! well companies are always going to use the most cost effective materials so they wont differ much either.
Yes every deck is
very differenet. They are all made by different pressing companies, in differnet places, for different reasons. They all have different lengths, widths, thickness, concave, weight, material, shape of nose and tail, etc.
So no, every deck is not the same. And yes blueprint make horrible decks.
you would be surprised actually Josh.. many decks today do and all come from practically the same distrubtor and makers.. i know for a fact, enjoi, blind and flip are all practially the same, the only difference is there graphics, dont let advertiser fool you, many decks are and always will be the same..

Yes - i never argued about that. but for example, i am riding a foundation atm, which is like toy machine but differs a lot from blind. and even within the same press you can use different kinds of glue as some of my aqcuantances recently discovered... they used water-based glue which vanished when it came to the (hot) pressing *lol*..
and to the sponsoring:
probably you dont really want real sponsoring... maybe "support" or something like this might be more attractive to you.
And eventually: Skateboarding is not a job for the whole life. You should be prepared to do something else when being older...
Spence
Oct 9 2005, 07:12 PM
I don't really care about being sponsered, i would like too, like anyone else would, but i just skate and enjoy it. At the moment im concentrating on a vid, me and my friends are making.
_thom_
Oct 9 2005, 08:51 PM
QUOTE(Spence @ Oct 9 2005, 08:12 PM)

I don't really care about being sponsered, i would like too, like anyone else would, but i just skate and enjoy it. At the moment im concentrating on a vid, me and my friends are making.
thats the same case as me at the min spence.. i really just wanna concentrate on our vid, not worry about a sponsor, im just skating for the fun of it, chilling around town all day just seshing our spots and having fun..
theres the nail on the head really. if your skating to get sponsered, you might as well quit.. if your skating becuase you love it, carry on and maybe one day you will get free stuff for it..
Candie
Oct 9 2005, 11:50 PM
QUOTE(Rodney @ Oct 8 2005, 03:33 PM)

Even though i think this is a pisstake...
Skate for yourself, the sponsors come to you if youre good enough, not the other way round. From what i've heard sponsorship ain't all its cracked up to be...
er.. is there an echo in here?
stu...
Oct 10 2005, 11:09 AM
I don't think skating professionally would be that bad...at least it isn't a proper job. Apart from demos and photoshoots what are pro skaters doing? fuck all that's what! you work like three days a week on average. It's like being a athlete they do very little most of the time except train.
the fozz
Oct 10 2005, 12:14 PM
QUOTE(MytholoJy @ Oct 8 2005, 03:02 PM)

of the subject..but i love that blueprint deck, i might get that next week, blueprint any good for skating?
They are actuly pretty good, the smell dead nice to:p going buy another one on tuesday
Darris
Oct 10 2005, 12:54 PM
QUOTE(stu... @ Oct 10 2005, 12:09 PM)

I don't think skating professionally would be that bad...at least it isn't a proper job. Apart from demos and photoshoots what are pro skaters doing? fuck all that's what! you work like three days a week on average. It's like being a athlete they do very little most of the time except train.
You would have to be at the higher end of the pro skating spectrum to earn enough to be comfy on though? I have no idea what sort of money skateboarders earn but i would imagine its not going to be bolt loads (unless your a big pro).
trickster
Oct 10 2005, 02:53 PM
yeah to get sponsered u need to be the best in the town or the best in the city for just ur local sk8shop to sponsor u really. and its better to just go out and enjoy sk8in as a pastime rather than a job. be a billionaire ive heard its better paid.
Aeris
Oct 10 2005, 03:16 PM
Another possibility: be a girl.

they get sponsored more easily.
Yes, that's true. it requires much less style and much less knowledge to get sponsored as a girl..
Candie
Oct 10 2005, 03:31 PM
easyER... not EASY.
Aeris
Oct 10 2005, 03:39 PM
which is why i wrote "more easily" which basically equals "easier". but hey, i have seen a girl doing a horrible kickflip, horrible ollie and that's it - she is sponsored!
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