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Death Board
well if all of you didnt see my new board i posted like 1/2 of a mouth ago.... Its concaved and i think it gives me more turning power because i went on my friends board and it sucked at turning because it was no concave....
maybe it was that because it was 2 years old with old platic wheels ..... but dose concave wreck the trick power? my friend gose crasy on his but he is only like 9 yrs old ...... but he anit a super skater i just told him how to do tsome tricks and now hes almost got the ollie down...well anyway its easyer to balene on his board and mines like hard but i have got the hand of it ....... so what im asking dose it matter if its concaved or flat?


Thx for the help if u give it to me angry.gif
DarkFS
QUOTE(Death Board @ Oct 8 2005, 04:48 PM) *

Its concaved and i think it gives me more turning power because i went on my friends board and it sucked at turning because it was no concave....

Concave has nothing to do with it, it's how tight the king pin on your trucks are.

QUOTE(Death Board @ Oct 8 2005, 04:48 PM) *

maybe it was that because it was 2 years old with old platic wheels

WTF are platic wheels? Again, wheels have nothing to do with turning.

QUOTE(Death Board @ Oct 8 2005, 04:48 PM) *

..... but dose concave wreck the trick power?

No, there is no such thing unfortunatly. Your board does not give you 'trick power' it's how good a skater you are.

In conclusion, concave is a must have because it enables you to pop the board, but you can't get any boards without any concave at all, all boards have a slight concave. Concave also has nothing to do with you not being able to control your turns, YOU MUST GO AND TIGHTEN THE KINGPIN ON THE TRUCKS WITH A SKATEBOARD WRENCH OR SPANNER. (The kingpins are the big nuts on each truck)

Hope that answers your question.
stu...
well if you don't like much of a concave for whatever reason get a new wave deck or a blueprint convecture deck as the way their built allows them to have less concave. It's all about the trucks baby! you shouldn't worry about this stuff if you've just started but if you insist then you should worry about length and width. Try other peoples decks and find a width that your comfortable with. I prefer a 7.6xx and i know that because i tried everything else and i'm happy with that size.
Rodney
QUOTE(DarkFS @ Oct 8 2005, 05:15 PM) *

you can't get any boards without any concave at all, all boards have a slight concave.


Not true, there are some board companies that make concaveless boards, and Mullen invented most of today's "standard" ollie tricks on a board with no concave. In Public Domain by Powell (i think), mullen does a triple flip on flat, and most boards at that time had no concave at all. smile.gif

But yes, concave is a must these days really.
Doug77
i have a concave board and i find it much easier to skate on it.
grannyslam
QUOTE(DarkFS @ Oct 9 2005, 02:15 AM) *


In conclusion, concave is a must have because it enables you to pop the board, but you can't get any boards without any concave at all, all boards have a slight concave. Concave also has nothing to do with you not being able to control your turns, YOU MUST GO AND TIGHTEN THE KINGPIN ON THE TRUCKS WITH A SKATEBOARD WRENCH OR SPANNER. (The kingpins are the big nuts on each truck)

Hope that answers your question.



I have one of those really cheap kiddy boards, which I don't ride but belive me it has NO concave its just a plank of wood with to kicks on each side.

But, i find concave is easier to ollie higher on and i find it gets the board spinning a little faster than something eithout concave.
_thom_
QUOTE(DarkFS @ Oct 8 2005, 05:15 PM) *

QUOTE(Death Board @ Oct 8 2005, 04:48 PM) *

Its concaved and i think it gives me more turning power because i went on my friends board and it sucked at turning because it was no concave....

Concave has nothing to do with it, it's how tight the king pin on your trucks are.

QUOTE(Death Board @ Oct 8 2005, 04:48 PM) *

maybe it was that because it was 2 years old with old platic wheels

WTF are platic wheels? Again, wheels have nothing to do with turning.

QUOTE(Death Board @ Oct 8 2005, 04:48 PM) *

..... but dose concave wreck the trick power?

No, there is no such thing unfortunatly. Your board does not give you 'trick power' it's how good a skater you are.

In conclusion, concave is a must have because it enables you to pop the board, but you can't get any boards without any concave at all, all boards have a slight concave. Concave also has nothing to do with you not being able to control your turns, YOU MUST GO AND TIGHTEN THE KINGPIN ON THE TRUCKS WITH A SKATEBOARD WRENCH OR SPANNER. (The kingpins are the big nuts on each truck)

Hope that answers your question.




Theres your answer.. ninja.gif
Aeris
umm...

1.: i have seen boards without ANY concave at all (so yeah, they exist)
2.: you have two concaves, one from the tail to the and one from "the left to the right" rail or so.......... and if the latter is a bit steeper wink.gif then it is actually easier to turn around than on a board w/o this concave or with less but the same kingping-nut-fastening.
3.: I think he meant plastic wheels. I mean, this was really obvious. And i also have seen some of those - they are hollow in the inside.
4.: Of course the concave affects how easy the tricks are going. But it depends on the tricks - some might be even more difficult then. Even if the affection is only slight sometimes.

There is a reason for different shapes/concaves.... huh.gif *coughs*

although good skaters should be able to ride on boards no matter what their shape is and not only their fav shape.
DarkFS
Sorry, there seems to be some confusion. When I said all decks have concave I was excluding £5 boards for 6 year olds and decks from 20 years ago. Most people don't skate on toy boards with plastic trucks and we are in the 21st century.

QUOTE(surfgrommit @ Oct 9 2005, 01:56 AM) *

it has NO concave its just a plank of wood with to kicks on each side.

That is a concave!!!

One more thing I should add - The more side concave a deck has, the easier it will be for flipping. So in other words, go for more conave if you skate street.
_thom_
QUOTE(Aeris @ Oct 9 2005, 12:07 PM) *

umm...

1.: i have seen boards without ANY concave at all (so yeah, they exist)
2.: you have two concaves, one from the tail to the and one from "the left to the right" rail or so.......... and if the latter is a bit steeper wink.gif then it is actually easier to turn around than on a board w/o this concave or with less but the same kingping-nut-fastening.


QUOTE(DarkFS @ Oct 9 2005, 07:17 PM) *

Sorry, there seems to be some confusion. When I said all decks have concave I was excluding £5 boards for 6 year olds and decks from 20 years ago. Most people don't skate on toy boards with plastic trucks and we are in the 21st century.

QUOTE(surfgrommit @ Oct 9 2005, 01:56 AM) *

it has NO concave its just a plank of wood with to kicks on each side.

That is a concave!!!


concave is more than just the curved bits before your nose and tail.. its the whole board.. if you look at any new school board you will see the whole board is curved.. we might call the tail and nose dips the concave but really what is the most important factor is the actual boards curve.. without it its is alot harder to pull out tricks..

to be honest i dont even worry about concave really.. and ive been skating for years.. as long as it insnt too deep or too shallow im not arsed..

so neither should newbie skaters.. no worries cool.gif
DarkFS
There are two types of concave - the nose and tail and the side. So if a board has a nose and tail, it's got a concave.
Aeris
umm. *coughs* a good friend of mine who is definately not a beginner sticking to warehouse boards has a board with no concave which still has a nose and a tail.
DarkFS
QUOTE(Aeris @ Oct 9 2005, 12:07 PM) *

you have two concaves, one from the tail to the and one from "the left to the right" rail or so

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Aeris
yeah, pack everything on the gold scale. what i meant was that when saying concave you can refer two different ones, from the tip of the nose to the end of the tail - or from side to side, but not necessarily indicating that there actually is one.
So you can say "my board has no concave" meaning it is flat from the left to the right side or flat from the nose to the tail or that it is completely flat.

damn, what are you going to do for a living?
Really_Really_You
Do you think having no concave gives you no pop?
Rodney
nah, should have the same amount of pop whatever the concave is.
呪怨..
having no concave (rail to rail, as opposed to nose to tail) makes it harder to flip off of the side of the board, making your board harder to flip unless you are doing mob flips. personally i needa bit of of concave to dig my toes into, if you stand on boards that are all the same width and length, feel the difference in concave, try and skate a flatter deck and find that it takes more effort to flip it, or a steeper concave and oyu will find the reverse.

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